Do The "Four Living Creatures" Have "Harps"???

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Do The "Four Living Creatures" Have "Harps"???

#1 Post by yorww » Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:27 am


Hi all,

Please consider with me the following verses, which raises a curious question for us all.

Revelation 5:8-10 says:

"8 And when he took the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, having each one a harp and golden bowls that were full of incense, and the [incense] means the prayers of the holy ones. 9 And they sing a new song, saying: "You are worthy to take the scroll and open its seals, because you were slaughtered and with your blood you bought persons for God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, 10 and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth." -- New World Translation

My question has to do with the mention of the "harps" being used by BOTH PARTIES namely, (1) the "Four Living Creatures" and (2) the "24 Elders" and whether BOTH PARTIES are actually singing the "New Song."

Here is a quote from the Revelation Grand Climax book, page 85 (par. 14) which states:

"But these elders ARE ALONE in having harps and bowls of incense. And THEY ALONE now sing a new song."

Also, a clarifying comment is made in the footnote (page 85) about this particular understanding of the verse,

"Grammatically speaking, the expression 'having each one a harp and golden bowls that were full of incense' could refer both to the elders and to the four living creatures. The context, however, makes it clear that the expression REFERS ONLY TO THE 24 ELDERS."

Still after reading these verses for yourself, do not the verses above actually show BOTH PARTIES, have a "harp," also a "bowl of incense" each, and both parties actually sing the "new song" themselves? Isn't this the case?

However, as shown in a footnote in the Revelation Grand Climax book (1988) when discussing this info, the Watchtower Society does not believe BOTH PARTIES, namely the "Four Living Creatures" AND the "24 Elders" are actually singing the "New Song" together, and neither do they believe BOTH PARTIES mentioned, make use of the "harps" to do so.

What are you thoughts on this viewpoint?

Thanks in advance for any replies. :D

"He that is from God listens to the sayings of God..." -- John 8:47

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